Why 90 Minutes? CPS Longer School Day Update

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Written by: Lee Haas

Lee is a long-time member and volunteer of NPN. She currently serves as the NPN CPS Liaison.  She is our past NPN Board President. She freelances as a writer and lives with her husband and two daughters on the NorthWest side. She is a founding member of the PTO at her daughter's CPS school.

The second gathering of the CPS Longer School Day Advisory committee was held last week. The main focus of the conversation centered on implementing a longer school day in the high schools. But a few other concerns that seem to keep popping up were addressed.

Why 90 Minutes?

One question that many seem to keep hearing is “why 90 minutes?” It seems a little long to some parents. And the Teachers’ Union is advocating for only 75 minutes. The rationale is this: Chicago currently spends the least amount of time in the classroom compared to every other large urban district. Adding 90 minutes per day brings us to the top of that field. However, just while we are struggling to get ourselves up from the bottom, many districts across the nation who are at the top range of “time in the classroom” are making plans to increase that time even further! So if we increase our time by only 75 minutes a day, within a couple of years, we will find that we are right back at the bottom of the heap. Plus, CPS believes that the 90 minute increase is what it will take to implement the new Common Core curriculum properly.

How will this be funded?

Another major concern that we are hearing is in regards to funding a longer school day. Adding in things such as teacher preparation periods, recess and longer lunches will require additional staffing at most schools. Is CPS office just going to mandate this change and leave the schools to scramble to come up with the funds to support a longer day? The answer is no. Part of what they are looking at this year with the schools participating in the “Pioneer Program” is just how much additional resources schools will require to implement the change.

Length of the High School day

The committee discussed the various factors that should be considered when determining adding length to the High School day – longer commutes for many students, extra-curricular activities and after-school jobs. All felt it was important to take these things into consideration. The general consensus among the committee was that the high school day could be lengthened by 30-45 minutes and that additional time could be squeezed throughout the day to find additional “time on task.” For example, the 45 minute lunch could be shortened. And schools could move to “block” scheduling to decrease the amount of time spent in “passing periods.” These were all merely suggestions by the committee. It remains to be seen how CPS regards our suggestions.

Here’s my soapbox moment:

I was somewhat heartened earlier this week by the news of the agreement between CPS office and the CTU to suspend efforts to draft additional schools into the Longer Day Pioneer Program. Both sides are selling this as a positive event and I believe (or sincerely hope) that it’s one step towards softening the contentious relationship between CPS and CTU. CPS office needs to work hard in order to “sell” the longer school day. They need to show that they are working in the best interest of the students by not just pushing forward an agenda, but by truly working to IMPROVE the school day. Likewise, although it’s the job of the CTU to protect the best interest of the teachers, they need to do so without jeopardizing the quality of our education system (or in our case, do so while IMPROVING it). In reality, for a longer school day to really make any sort of impact, it’s going to depend on how the staff and teachers at each school utilize the additional time. If the teachers, staff (and parents!) are resistant to this change, then they are probably not going to do the best job utilizing the additional time (professionalism aside, if their hearts just aren’t in it, it’s not going to be the best it can be). The communities and all parties involved need to get behind this effort in order for it to live up to expectations. So that’s my rally cry. I’m stepping off my soap box now.

Need Your Feedback!!

I would love to gather some feedback and opinions to take with me to the December committee meeting. Does your students attend one of the “Pioneer” schools who are testing out the longer day? How’s it going? What’s your opinion on adding 75 minutes as opposed to 90 minutes? Do you think the teachers/staff at your school will be supportive of the longer school day? Anyone thinking about high school yet??

Posted on November 04, 2011 at 8:46 PM

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  • Longer does not equal better.

    My problem with the longer school day is that how is it that we have some of the top public grade schools in the state. And no I am not talking about gifted or magnet programs. Just regular neighborhood schools. How is it that schools like Oriole Park and Edgebrook consistently score in the top 10 (statewide) and they have this "shorter day". I put it in quotes becasue some people would say our kids spend as much time in front of teachers as any school around. In fact when you ask why longer it's usually for longer recess and gym. I have a first grader in Oriole and she comes home tired and hungry after her "short day". Right now I don't see 90 more minutes benefitting her in any way. So why is it some schools thrive on this day and others struggle. Shouldn't we see what the good schools are doing right and implement those practices in struggling schools and then add time if necessary? I think it's to easy to say a longer day will solve these problems. It's a nice political policy but in the end we need kids to learn not just be in school longer. This all reminds me of "the tolls will go away as soon as we pay for the roads" and "the lottery will solve all our schools financial problems".

    by John on 11/10 at 09:26AM

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  • Agreed: I wonder about the benefits

    My biggest concern right now is that, as is, my 5-year-old comes home from Kindergarten cranky and exhausted. Then she has to have time to do homework, chill out for play time with her sister, eat, take a bath and get to bed at a reasonable hour. Sometimes she's got extracurricular activities after school, which I encourage and want to continue. Sometimes I have to drag them out of bed at 7:15 to get to school by 8:55—we live 20 to 25 minutes from our school, so we leave at 8:20. I don't see how another hour and a half is going to possibly work for Kindergarten or even 1st grade or whether you get diminishing returns after a point.

    by Elisa on 11/16 at 02:49PM

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  • Agree with Alisa and John...and to add...

    I agree with John and Alisa, I am a CPS teacher and have been about the Longer School Day discussion since last May. On my blog I point out that teachers aren't opposed to more time with students, but for healthy child development it does matter how that time is spent. It will be unhealthy for students to have more seat-time for math and reading. Teachers expect this to happen precisely because whatever the longer school day plan ends up being, it CANNOT be divorced from resources (capital or operational, building/classroom material costs, personnel costs). If the Board doesn't have the money to pay teachers to be with students longer, we can expect that students in a longer school day environment will be plopped down in front of computers doing test-prep. I am sorry to say, Alisa, bu I don't expect your child to be coming home excited about being in school longer each day. For more: www.classroomsooth.wordpress.com tw: @ClassroomSooth

    by ClassroomSooth on 01/04 at 11:47AM

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  • Quantity does not equal quality.

    I agree with the other posters. Quantity does not equal quality. Going from the shortest school day in the state to the longest is extreme, unnecessary and even harmful. Facts CPS has overlooked: the average school day in the state is 6.5 hours; in the U.S. it's 6.64. At least 13 CPS elementary schools have long had a 6.5 hour day--some for more than a decade. These 6.5 hour schools outperform the CPS schools (many of them charters) at a 7.5+ hour day in 2010-2011. Why do we need to go to 7.5? Why not 6.5? Twelve more schools moved to the 6.5 model in 2011 with virtually no cost to CPS and have recess, PE, art and music. As other posters have said, 7.5 hours is too long. There are only so many hours in a day, and with homework and after-school programs there is little time left for family, friends, dinner and sleep--all critical for academic success and healthy develoment. We should be focused on the quality of the day--and things like class size and curriculum.

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